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CGamesPlay 57 minutes ago [-]
Several factual errors about the model here. The input modalities are listed as text only, but the headline feature is image support. The context length should be 1048576 (so should GLM-5.3's, also wrong on the charts).
So how exactly is Anthropic and OpenAI ever going to pay back the trillions that they plan on spending?
Marha01 38 minutes ago [-]
> So how exactly is Anthropic and OpenAI ever going to pay back the trillions that they plan on spending?
It's really simple: if they truly get to human-level AI (or even superhuman AI), then money and debts no longer matter, since our current economic system will be obsolete. They are betting everything on this outcome.
I don't know if they will manage to do it before their debts have to be repaid, but considering the rate of acceleration in the past few months, there is a non-trivial chance that they will, IMHO. We will see.
gruez 39 minutes ago [-]
You could ask the same about how z.ai, moonshot ai, minimax, and alibaba are going to continue training and releasing models for free.
m_ke 32 minutes ago [-]
just like there were mistrals, coheres, llamas, etc, there will be new deepseeks and moonshots if those ever flame out (worst case, given out at cost by google, meta, alibaba or etc)
OpenAI and Anthropic are already in a ~200bil hole from previous model iterations and are committing to trillions of additional spending
OpenAI spent more TBPN than kimi spent on training K3
WarmWash 30 minutes ago [-]
They are owned by the state, so the economics are a bit different.
epolanski 33 minutes ago [-]
At a fraction of the cost.
Haven880 1 hours ago [-]
Socialize the lost.They dont have to. You pay.
yogthos 31 minutes ago [-]
I expect they're going to fight each other to become the vendor of record for the government, and whoever wins will get bailed out. This is one area where they don't have to worry about competition from Chinese models.
vrganj 1 hours ago [-]
Why do you think tech oligarchs have been cozying up to the Trump admin? They're angling for a government bailout, paid for by your tax money!
ptdcc 53 minutes ago [-]
Thy cozy up to whoever is in government. They cozy'd up with Biden too.
Forgeties79 30 minutes ago [-]
I think most of us can see that the level of corruption we are seeing with the administration is quite historical. You can’t simply say “both administrations engaged in corruption” and consider the matter closed. Scale matters.
vrganj 51 minutes ago [-]
That's true. But it's been a while since an admin was as brazenly corrupt and the cozying up was so promising.
croemer 6 minutes ago [-]
Why does the top card say "Intelligence #1/173" when the bar chart further down shows it only at position 7?
And the model isn't even shown in the speed bar chart just below. Such slop (the artificial intelligence website linked)
jhack 26 minutes ago [-]
Better than the latest Deepseek v4 Pro while being 3x cheaper in cost per task. Impressive!
AnodicElegy 2 hours ago [-]
Impressive. It kicked everything between itself and Sol xhigh out of the Pareto frontier. Can't wait to try it out.
33 minutes ago [-]
a012 52 minutes ago [-]
Can’t wait to try this out, and the only missing from this model for me is Image input support
minimaxir 29 minutes ago [-]
It has image/video input support (that is surprisingly good)
https://docs.z.ai/guides/vlm/glm-5.3-flash#model-api
It's really simple: if they truly get to human-level AI (or even superhuman AI), then money and debts no longer matter, since our current economic system will be obsolete. They are betting everything on this outcome.
I don't know if they will manage to do it before their debts have to be repaid, but considering the rate of acceleration in the past few months, there is a non-trivial chance that they will, IMHO. We will see.
OpenAI and Anthropic are already in a ~200bil hole from previous model iterations and are committing to trillions of additional spending
OpenAI spent more TBPN than kimi spent on training K3
And the model isn't even shown in the speed bar chart just below. Such slop (the artificial intelligence website linked)